It was 30 years ago, soon after they got married, that her husband became independent and started his own construction company. Though the company is now performing steadily, her husband's good-natured nature has caused the business to be in trouble for a long time. "It may sound good to be called the wife of a company president, but there were times when I couldn't even pay my children's school lunch fees (laughs)." Her son, who caused her such embarrassment, is now a great successor, working under her husband, getting married, and giving birth to a long-awaited grandchild. "I asked him to appear on the show because I thought all he had to do now was enjoy the rest of his life to the fullest."